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    How do you initiate a basic parallel turn?

    How do you initiate a parallel turn?
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    Usually by releasing the CoM from the previous turn and having momentum into the new turn. How depends on the type of transition.

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    Releasing the edges and allowing the COM to cross over the skis. With speed/momentum, this can occur several ways. At really slow pace on fairly flat terrain, an extension of the old inside leg with rolling the old outside foot toward downhill can get things moving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamt View Post
    Usually by releasing the CoM from the previous turn and having momentum into the new turn. How depends on the type of transition.
    Great input here. Ok, can you go a little bit further and expain "how" you create momentum and what dictates which type of transition? Name a few!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kneale Brownson View Post
    Releasing the edges and allowing the COM to cross over the skis. With speed/momentum, this can occur several ways. At really slow pace on fairly flat terrain, an extension of the old inside leg with rolling the old outside foot toward downhill can get things moving.
    Thanks for your input. What do you call such a turn initiation?
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    I consider turn initiation to be the moment of weighted engagement of the downhill edges. I consider release to be the initiation of the transition.

    I recognize 4 general types of parallel turns in regard to initiations> Carved Arc to Arc, Carved Pivot, Steered Clean Entry, Steered Pivot.

    Each turn type requires a slightly different initiation, but each benefits from subtle and progressive application of edge angle and pressure. They allow the edges to smoothly and precisely engage the snow, keeping the snow from being overloaded with a sudden thrust of force, which could cause it to break away and affect the quality of the initiation.
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    Thanks Rick for your input. Here is what you are saying: first comes the release, then comes the transition, last comes the turn initiation. Sounds right. However, if the release initiates the transition then the transition initiates the turn initiation. IMO turn initiation sometimes also include the transition and sometimes also even the release. For example when Im linking short turns down the fall line Im highly dependant on rebound from my previous turn and that is even before releasing.

    How about this....

    Turn Phases
    1 Release
    2 Transition
    3 Edge engagement
    4 Pressure

    Initiation for:
    - Wedge turn 4
    - Wedgechristie 4
    - Carved turns 3
    - Parallelchristie 2
    - Linked short turns 1

    Does that sound anywhere close? Maybe the list should read:
    1 Rebound
    2 Release
    3 Transition
    4 Edge engagement
    5 Pressure

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    I start with my feet. Slight tip if I want to steer.

    I also use pressure on the outside ski a the very top of the turn, scrape in the inside ski (John Clendenin move) and roll onto my LTE of my inside ski

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushido Princess View Post
    I start with my feet. Slight tip if I want to steer.

    I also use pressure on the outside ski a the very top of the turn, scrape in the inside ski (John Clendenin move) and roll onto my LTE of my inside ski
    Thaks för posting. You must also be dooing something else than tipping. If you only tip your skis will carve edge locked. In order to steer you need to do some additional movement. Or?
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    Inside half committing to the turn while building enough pressure to the outside foot to support mass balanced on top of it as the feet guide us or tip us into the fall line

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